MANN MAN genealogy | 26 January 2017 | |
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| 0 Geoffrey Mann MANN | 1. Herbert Henry MANN 1887-1958 |
2 Herbert Henry MANN |
| spouse's(2) records | 1m Elsie F WHENT 1912
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| Herbert Henry (Bert) was born at Elim Cottage, Shoebury, his grandfather’s house, but by 1891 his
parents were living in Cambridge Cottages, Ness Rd. HH left school at 12, and
apprenticed by his father as a carpenter. He married Elsie Whent in 1912, but then served in the Fleet Air Arm during the war,
stationed at Killingholme airfield on the Humber Estuary. His wife contracted cancer, but he was not
allowed leave to be with her when she died in Oct 1918 at the home of HH's parents, Aintree, Church Rd.
The next year, he emigrated to Canada, working as a carpenter on logging sites near Vancouver. HH returned from Canada after 18 months to help his father who had now established his own building firm. He met his second wife at the Pleasant Rd Methodist Church and they married in 1928 at Thorpe Bay, where Amy was living at Kynance on the sea front, built by H.H.Mann & Sons. They moved to a newly built house "Wendon" in Church Rd Shoeburyness, where 4 children were born. The firm prospered in the 1930s building many houses in Shoebury, such as Herbert Rd, Caulfield Rd, Ulster Avenue. He told me that one year, the firm made £7000 profit (equivalent to about £220,000 in 2000) enough to run two cars and employ a gardener and handyman/chauffeur. The last road, Ulster Avenue, however was only half built when the second war began. The houses had been built for rent using money borrowed from a Building Society; all building stopped during the war, and many people left the area. With no rent coming in, the loans created a problem and houses were sold whenever possible at low prices. H.H served as an air raid warden in the war, and the firm survived with a few older men doing war damage repairs. Little building was possible in the years after the war; Robin was working in the firm, but decided to become a Methodist Minister, while I went to University. With no one to take over, the firm was sold for whatever terms could be had. The change in his fortunes left him embittered. He had been brought up by a strictly religious father who founded and preached in the Shoebury Methodist chapel. HH played the organ there, but he wrestled to reconcile his religion with the double loss of his first wife and of his business, and eventually stopped going to church. Many considered him a difficult man, but as a child, I remember him quite differently, playing games, and rough and tumbles with his children. He played golf and bowls and was very intelligent, despite his lack of education. He and Amy moved next door to "Aintree" 35 Church Rd after the death of his brother and sister, and he died from a heart attack in 1958 aged 70 |
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7Oct1887 5Apr1891 3 19Aug1892 4 31Mar1901 13 28Nov1901 14 26Jun1912 24 12Aug1916 28 4Nov1916 28 1Jan1918 30 2Oct1918 30 26Feb1919 31 23May1919 31 1919/20 11Nov1920 32 18Mar1922 34 3Nov1926 39 27 c1927 39 28 13Jul1928 40 29 31Oct1930 43 31 30Mar1932 44 33 14May1935 47 36 1939 51 40 c1942 54 43 25Aug1953 65 54 1953 65 54 c1955 67 56 31Mar1955 67 56 13May1958 70 59 20Nov1987 88 |
HH born at Elim Cottages, South Shoebury HH at 4 Cambridge Cottages Shoebury with parents, brother and sister brother Harold Robin MANN died aged 10m with family at “Aintree” West Rd, Shoeburyness (on corner with Church Rd) apprenticed as a carpenter to Harris & Rowe Ltd for 4 years HH m Elsie Florence WHENT at St Andrews Rd Methodist chapel, Shoebury HH enlisted in Fleet Air Arm; basic training at Crystal Palace until 3Nov1916 moved to Fleet Air Arm base at Killingbourne on R.Humber estuary promoted to air mechanic class 1 Elsie Florence died of cancer at the Mann home, Aintree, Church Rd discharged from RAF medical category A HH sailed from Liverpool to Canada on "S.S.Megantic" worked as a carpenter in and around Vancouver arrived in London on SS Corsican from Montreal HH's mother died; HH & AJ married at Christ Church, Thorpe Bay moved to new house 'Wendon' Church Rd, Shoeburyness, Essex son Herbert Henry Robin born at 'Wendon' son Geoffrey Michael Wilfrid born at 'Wendon' son David Brian Dudley born at 'Wendon' dau Rosemary Jessie born at 'Wendon' AJ and children evacuated to Ashbourne Derbyshire; HH an air raid warden in Shoebury AJ and children returned sister Dora died next door at 35 Church Rd moved next door into 35 Church Rd; Wendon (no.33) given as a Methodist manse HH sold building firm HH made last will, everything to AJ HH died at General Hospital Rochford from coronary thrombosis AJ died at Southend Hospital |
PRINCIPAL RECORDS
b=born m=married d=died
C=Christened B=Buried
BIRTH
certificate and baptismal certificate
Herbert Henry MANN boy b 7Oct1887 at Elim Cottages, South Shoebury
f: Herbert Henry MANN, carpenter; m: Lavinia Jessie MANN formerly SMITHERS
r 15Nov1887 at Great Wakering, Rochford, ESS by Herbert Henry MANN, father, of Elim Cottages, South Shoebury,
C 20Nov1887 Shoeburyness b 7Oct1887 Shoeburyness, Herbert Henry, son of Herbert Henry, carpenter & Jessie MANN
baptised by Presbyterian Army Chaplain
MARRIAGE
1 certificate:
m 26Jun1912 at Shoeburyness ESS Primitive Methodist School Chapel, St Andrews Rd
Herbert Henry MANN bch, 24, builder of "Aintree" Church Rd, Shoeburyness
&
Elsie Florence WHENT spr, 24, of Sea Rd, Shoeburyness
f: Herbert Henry MANN, builder; George WHENT, grocer and butcher; w: George WHENT, Wilfrid MANN
2 certificate:
m 3Nov1926 at Thorpe Bay, ESS Christ Church parish church of Southchurch by licence
Herbert Henry MANN wdr, 39, builder of "Aintree" Church Rd, Shoeburyness
&
Amy Janet BLEWETT spr, 27, of "Kynance" Eastern Esplanade, Thorpe Bay
f: Herbert Henry MANN, builder; Henry Michael BLEWETT, merchant;
wit: H L DUNLOP, H M BLEWETT, P.V.L.WA--PS
DESCENDANTS
b 13Jul1928 Herbert Henry Robin at “Wendon” Church Rd Shoeburyness
d 5Sep2021 at Thorpe Bay
b 31Oct1930 Geoffrey Michael Wilfrid “
b 30Mar1932 David Brian Dudley “ d Jan2006 at
Southend
b 14May1935 Rosemary Jessie “ d 29Nov2016
at Nuneaton
certificates:
Herbert Henry Robin MANN boy b 13Jul1928 at Wendon, Church Rd, Shoeburynessf: H H MANN, builder (house); m: Amy Janet MANN formerly BLEWETT
r 14Sep1928 at Great Wakering, Rochford, ESS by H H MANN, father, of Wendon, Church Rd Shoeburyness
Geoffrey Michael Wilfrid MANN boy b 31Oct1930 at Wendon, Church Rd, Shoeburyness
f: H H MANN, house builder (master); m: Amy Janet MANN formerly BLEWETT
r 11Dec1930 at Great Wakering, Rochford, ESS by H H MANN, father, of Wendon, Church Rd Shoeburyness
DEATH
certificates
d 2Oct1918 Elsie Florence MANN female 31, wife of Herbert Henry MANN, mechanic, Royal Air Force,at Aintree, Church Rd, Shoeburyness of carcinoma
r 4Oct1918 at Great Wakering, Rochford, ESS by Geo WHENT, father, of 44 Sea Rd, Shoeburyness pad
d 13May1958 Herbert Henry MANN male 70, master builder retired, of 35 Church Rd, Shoeburyness,
at General Hospital Rochford from coronary thrombosis
r 14May1958 at Rochford, ESS by A.J MANN, widow of deceased, of 35 Church Rd, Shoeburyness
d 20Nov1987 Amy Janet MANN female, b 11Mar1899 at Leyton, Waltham Forest, of 35 Church Rd, Shoeburyness,
at Rochford Hospital from carcinoma, widow of Herbert Henry MANN, builder
r 23Nov1987 Southend-on-Sea, ESS by Herbert Henry Robin MANN, son, 1 Oberon Place, Hartford, Huntingdon, Cambs
will of Herbert Henry Mann
signed 31 March 1955; died 13 May 1958; £15,809Everything to wife Amy Janet Mann; if she pre-deceases me then £750 to daughter Rosemary; £750 to son Robin;
all personal effects to Robin to divide between children as he thinks fit; all property equally divided between children.
CENSUS
1891 South Shoebury ESS, 4 Cambridge Cottages
RG12/1394 f88
Herbert H MANN he mar 29 1861 carpenter Sutton, ESS
Lavinia J MANN wi mar 26 1864 Mile End, London
Herbert H MANN so 3 1887 Shoeburyness ESS
Dora J MANN da 2 1889 Shoeburyness ESS
Wilfred MANN so 11m1890 Shoeburyness ESS
1901 Shoeburyness ESS, Aintree, West Rd
RG13/1686 f26
Herbert H MANN he mar 39 1862 carpenter worker Sutton, ESS
Jessie L MANN wi mar 36 1865 London
Herbert H MANN so 13 1888 Shoeburyness ESS
Dora J MANN da 12 1889 Shoeburyness ESS
Wiilfred MANN so 10 1891 Shoeburyness ESS
Elizabeth E FINCH bo sin 29 1872 nurse domestic Shoreham Sussex
Aphra J TYNDALL bo sin 17 1884 Ireland
Muriel B L TYNDALL bo 15 1886 Ascension Island W.African colony[?]
George H TYNDALL bo 7 Gosport
Madeline M TYNDALL bo 4 Gosport
Katherine A H TYNDALL bo 2 Southsea
bo=boarder
1911 South Shoebury ESS Aintree Church Rd, Shoeburyness
RG14PN10174 RG78PN534 RD195 SD3 ED5 SN450
Herbert Henry MANN he mar 49 1862 Carpenter and Joiner Sutton ESS
Lavinia Jessie MANN wi mar 46 1865 MDX
Herbert Henry MANN so sin 23 1888 Carpenter and Joiner South Shoebury ESS
Dora Jessie MANN da sin 22 1889 South Shoebury ESS
24 years married 4 children born 3 living
1939 register Wendon, Church Rd Shoeburyness
Mann Herbert H 7Oct1887 Master builder
Mann Amy J 11Mar1899 Unpd Dom Duries
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Mann David B D 30Mar1932
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Aintree Church Rd
Mann Wilfred 19Apr1890 Master Builder & Decorator
Mann Dora J 18Deb1888 Unpd Dom Duties
OTHER
Apprenticeship
[abstract of original hand-written document]This Indenture made the 28th day of November 1901 between Herbert Henry Mann of Aintree West Rd Shoeburyness, carpenter and joiner, Herbert Henry Mann of the same place,his son and Harris & Rowe Ltd of Rampart St Shoeburyness, builders and contractors. The said HH Mann with the consent of his father doth put and bind himself Apprentice to Harris and Rowe Ltd to learn the art or trade of a Carpenter and Joiner until the end of four years …… and by way of wages, the sum of 1 penny per hour during the first year, 2 pence the second year, 3 pence the third year and 4 pence per hour the last year
signed H.H.Mann, H.H.Mann, in the presence of Mr Ansell, Rampart St, Shoeburyness; A.J.Harris Director, George R Rowe Secretary
WW1 Naval Air record
(Nat Arch: ADM 188/598 F19112)Herbert Henry MANN; b 7Oct1887 at Shoeburyness; carpenter engaged 12Aug1916;
age F.E.; height 5'10"; chest 37; hair brown; eyes grey; complexion fresh;
passed Educt P.O. Oct1917; discharged to RAF